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I realize that I'm a few hours premature. I'll be watching Sin City in about three hours, and I'll come post what I think about it afterwards. I just know that there will be others who see it this weekend, so I thought I should get this up and ready. My main thought is how are so many teenagers going to get into this ultra violent and sexy movie without their parents? Oh well, I guess that's a really old, dumb question since they've been doing it as long as there's been ratings.


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Ya i dont know the plot to this movie but the commercials really appealled to me. I'll probably see it sooner or later. Getin good reviews too!!! Hope its good!!


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Sin City is a graphic novel come to life on the big screen through a unique collaboration between the original graphic novelist Frank Miller (The Dark Knight) and filmmaker Robert Rodriguez (El Mariachi, From Dusk Till Dawn, Spy Kids.) It works as a violent, yet visionary vision of sex, corruption and evil because there are still those who WILL do the right thing.

The film is mostly in black-and-white, but colors are used for effect and symbolism. If the film had been released in color, it would have definitely been an NC-17, due to the extreme nature of the violence, which includes plenty of gunshot wounds, but even more dismemberments. If I'm making it sound too dark to watch, well, it is crammed with tons of action and comedy too. Sure, the comedy is mostly sick and twisted, but it still makes you laugh.

Aside from the intro and the coda, the film is broken into three stories, each with its own hero. The acting of the three "heroes" (Bruce Willis, Mickey Rourke, and Clive Owen) is all very good, but Mickey Rourke steals the film with a wonderful performance playing the most sympathetic character, even though he looks like a giant freak and has to do some horrible things. Rourke plays Marv, and I'd have no problems having Old Marv over for beers and talking about woman problems with him. The other character/performance who got my attention was Elijah Wood playing a badass cannibal in a delicious coup of casting against type.

I certainly recommend the film, but you are warned that this is about as hard as the R-rating can get, so either leave the kiddies or the old folks at home. Make sure you buckle up in your seat too because it's one wild ride.


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Well, I was sure that I was gonna see this movie on opening day (Friday), but do to a certain unexpected visitor (aka my Grandmother) among other things, I wasn't able to see it until tonight (Sunday). But now that I have seen it, heres what I have to say. (I'll try to mention mostly the things that Mark f missed):

Sin City is most certainly a movie unlike any other. If I had to compare it to something, I'd call it a mix between Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill vol. 1. Pulp Fiction, because of the multiple interrelated plots, the time changes, and the complete unpredictable craziness, and Kill Bill because of the immense amount of blood, gore, dismemberments, beheadings, and violence, but done in a way so that it is funny to watch, but at the same time ties your stomach in a knot.

As mark said, there is absolutely no question that this movie would be NC-17 if it was in color. The use of color in this mostly black and white movie, was one of my favorite aspects. There were so many, often very subtle, uses of color to make things stand out. And in contrast with the black and white, made for a very unique experience. In a car scene, where Clive Owen is speaking with Benicio Del Toro (the scene directed by Quentin Tarantino), the whole scene is in B&W. However, the lighting is in color. It's hard to describe, so you'll just have to see the movie for yourself.

I agree with mark that Mickey Rourke and Elijah Wood stole the show, but so did the actress who played Mijo, the extremely badass ninja-whore, who killed more people than anyone else in the movie.

Sin City had me glued to the screen, thinking "What the hell am I watching?" I must say that it beats out movies like Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, and Fight Club as the craziest, most unpredictably overflowing with violence movie I've ever seen. I loved every minute of it, and as soon as it was over, I was dying to see it again.

Now, I'm sure, as with many Tarantino flicks, Sin City will create plenty of lovers as well as haters. If you thought Kill Bill was violent, Sin City is much much much more, in much worse ways. I think that aspect will create some controversy, but I loved it. I know it hasn't been very long, but Sin City already makes it to one of my top 20 favorite movies of all time, because it went beyond where any movie has every gone before, and brought forth a new type of filmmaking that I'm sure is going to be copied in the future.
 
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I look forward, given the raves from mark and kraftdeluxe, to seeing Sin City. I'm going to have to with friends because my wife (who didn't care for Kill Bill and was so-so on Pulp Fiction) doesn't want to go...
 
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Well would anyone recommend it cause im deciding if I should go or not?


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Yowza! I think I recommended it, but it's super-violent, super-misogynistic and super-over-the-top! I thought that was clear!


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*Spoilers herein*
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I am sick to death of the inappropriate application of the label "misogynistic". It just opened, and already had to listen to this knee-jerk PC garbage from four people; two of whom haven't even seen the movie yet!(One has read the GNs and plans to see it, the other hasn't and won't)
I've been offered as 'evidence' of misogyny that the roles of the female characters in the movie are limited to whores and strippers.(It is called "SIN CITY" after all) I got nothing but a dismissive "Oh, please," when I pointed out the female cop and shrink(there's also the IRA merc). How do you argue with "Oh, please"? Has anyone noticed the unsavory roles of the male characters? With the notbale exception of Willis' character, they're not not exactly salt-of-the-earth types. Good Cop, Bad Cop(s), Child Molesting Murderer, Corrupt Senator, 'Good' Psycho, Cannibalistic Psycho, Corrupt Cannibalistic Clergyman, Mafioso, Unspecified Criminal(Owen), Assassin, Mercenary... The list goes on.
Another point: It's not very misogynistic to ascribe power and self determination to women, least of all whores.
I got "It's marketed towards men." Well, yeah, it is. Why that is supposed to be synonymous with misogynistic, I'm not sure, but at that point I'd given up on the prospect of arguing with an intractable reductionist. I didn't care what she thought about the rarely indicated misandrony frequently present in a great many things marketed toward women.
/Rant
So please, recognize that this movie casts a dim view on the nature of humanity in general; it does not unjustly denigrate women. "SIN CIY" is deeply, DEEPLY misanthropic, but it is not misogynistic.


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Originally posted by mmossman:

I am sick to death of the inappropriate application of the label "misogynistic". It just opened, and already had to listen to this knee-jerk PC garbage from four people; two of whom haven't even seen the movie yet!(One has read the GNs and plans to see it, the other hasn't and won't)


Are you talking about people HERE saying those things, or critics elsewhere? I can only see evidence of one person on this thread making any reference to misogyny. I didn't see anyone (on this thread) who hadn't seen the movie make any reference to misogyny at all.
 
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I think my use of the word (perhaps wrongly) just triggered the "rant", but I'm sure that it's come out somewhere else before here. I only used the word to get people's attention, so I guess it worked. I was trying to talk about how "super" (in all respects) the film is. I agree with the content of the rant so there's no need for me to add anything, except to say that I'm not a PC-type guy.


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Are you talking about people HERE saying those things, or critics elsewhere? I can only see evidence of one person on this thread making any reference to misogyny. I didn't see anyone (on this thread) who hadn't seen the movie make any reference to misogyny at all.


Not here, I'm talking about 4 people I know, over the past couple of days. And I'd hardly call them 'critics', that might imply a level of validity. I was really just still feeling combative about the whole thing. And yes, mark f, it was pretty much just seeing that word while being in that state of mind.


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Yep, "Sin City" has become my DEFAULT movie. If I want to watch a movie & can't decide out of all of my flicks, I always go for it! I never get tired of it. Great one liners, hilarious jokes, bloody good action! It HAS it all! Have you guys checked out the "Director's Cut". Superb! The movie is split into three seperate stories: The Hartigan story ("That Yellow Bastard") is so much thicker now & you get more of Burt Shlubb & Douglas Klump! I love those two & I hope they're in the sequel due to come out in '08! "I can only express puzzelment that borders on alarm." Fantastic line! The Marv story("The Hard Goodbye", my personal favorite, I even have his action figure which came out years before the movie & the movie used every accessorie the toy cam with!)let's you really get to know Marv better. You meet his mom & find out why he calls his gun 'Gladys'. As for the Dwight story("The Big Fat Kill"), you get more from Shellie's apartment & a bit more Miho action, & who couldn't want more Miho?! (4 stories if you count the two scenes with Josh Hartnett. Which, for some reason, are seperate from "The Big Fat Kill" & there is nothing added to the scenes at all.) It's well worth the 30 or so dollars they're asking for!


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