I saw this movie today and I think this has to be the summer blockbuster everyones been looking for. Massive action sequences, great comic relief and spectacular performances from all the stars. I especially liked Shia Labeouf's performance. The action sequences were mind-blowing and the transition from the real car to the robot was completely unnoticable. Well done Michael Bay.
Pulp Fiction (1994)
Jules: Normally, both your asses would be dead as fucking fried chicken, but you happen to pull this shit while I'm in a transitional period so I don't wanna kill you, I wanna help you. But I can't give you this case, it don't belong to me. Besides, I've already been through too much shit this morning over this case to hand it over to your dumb ass.
I'm wary of the dodgy american humour like 'my bad'. How I dislike that phrase.
Which is to say, Transformers shouldn't be a campy Adam Sandler movvie just cause that will sell....
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Well, I just finished it. Total waste of time. It played like a copy of Starship Troopers and its whole teen romance thing.
I felt no tension, no joy, no humour, no wonder...I felt not Transformed. sigh.....
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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin: It played like a copy of Starship Troopers...
ALRIIIIIGHT !!! I knew this movie would rock! Or is that comment meant to be insulting?
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I felt no tension, no joy, no humour, no wonder...
But the real question is, were there lots of explosions & hot Robot-on-Robot action?
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I felt not Transformed. sigh.....
It is a Michael Bay film. When was the last time you walked outta one of his movies with a knew way of looking at things? Okay, stupid question, I knoweveryone was worried about asteroids hitting the planet after "Armageddon" came out. They even came out with a carbon copy with "girly feelings" because of how much that movie affected our mindset at that time. Oh! And who can forget when he made T.N.T. officers cool with the first "Bad Boys"? I wanted to grow up & be one! (Of course, I was 17 at the time & I already knew that was never going to be a carrer choice, but what are ya gonna do?) So I take it back, Michael Bay knows how to make big budget blockbusters with lotsa character development & heart with a dash of social commentary & he always listens to fans!
In case you can't tell, I'M BEING SARCASTIC! I do enjoy Bay films, but ONLY for the action scenes. I own all of his movies (except for "Bad Boys 2". WAAAAAAAAY too awful to endure!) & I only really watch the action parts. Especially with "Pearl Harbor"! I've only watched that movie all the way through twice, once in the theater & once when I bought it on DVD. After that, I only watch the attack sequence starting at chapter 21. That's all Michael Bay's good for. When it comes to story, not much talent, but when it comes to explosive action, he's the man!
"I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!"
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What's not to like? TRANSFORMERS was big, loud, dumb, and pretty. Everything you come to expect from a Michael Bay film, and (nearly) everything you come to expect from a summer blockbuster. I went in expecting to have a lot of fun, and I came out having had my expectations met.
As for Shia, BIG BREAKOUT role. Felt very encouraged by the lovely Megan Fox, as well. Great, great, great comic relief provided by Shia's screen parents also.
The biggest problem I honestly had was that, during the last hour, I really had trouble telling the massive robots apart. The fight sequences were a bit too jarring for my tastes, but, again, it didn't affect my overall enjoyment.
Sure, it's no CITIZEN KANE, but do we really need another CITIZEN KANE?
What we do need, is a decent blockbuster....FF2, Ghost Rider, PotC3...all rubbish, Die Hard not sooo bad...what will save the summer?
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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin: what will save the summer?
Ummmm, "Stardust"? It'll be out next month, that could save summer !
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the action sequences weren't even thaaaaat great. too much shakey-camera, a little too in-your-face, you couldn't always tell what was going on. however, the CGI was probably the best it's ever been.
Shia was very good, and his parents offered some great comic relief. as did the computer programmer who ate all the donuts.
the whole teen-love thing was embarrassingly trite (surprise!), and the story line involving the teenage computer wizzes was completely useless and a logical folly. the secretary of defense hires a bunch of high-school computer nerds for national safety. uh, what? also, computer nerds aren't as hot as that one chick. speaking of hotness, megan fox didn't contribute much besides that.
it also really bothers me when movies like this lower their intelligence level to suit kids. optimus prime telling his boys to "roll out", as well as the previously mentioned "my bad", made me shake my head. i mean, if they used formal robo-language that kids wouldn't quite understand, it would add a little mysticism. this movie had potential for loads of mysticism, but failed to build any up. huge waste.
i was also surprised at the ending, as it pretty much killed any possibility of a sequel. i was sure that bay would have been all over that.
still, it was entertaining. the fight in the city was pretty spectacular. i've seen it twice now, i think that's plenty. time to move on to die hard 4.
Posted by Fitz it also really bothers me when movies like this lower their intelligence level to suit kids. optimus prime telling his boys to "roll out", as well as the previously mentioned "my bad", made me shake my head. i mean, if they used formal robo-language that kids wouldn't quite understand, it would add a little mysticism. this movie had potential for loads of mysticism, but failed to build any up. huge waste.
Excellent, excellent point Fitz.
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Posted by Fitz it also really bothers me when movies like this lower their intelligence level to suit kids. optimus prime telling his boys to "roll out", as well as the previously mentioned "my bad", made me shake my head. i mean, if they used formal robo-language that kids wouldn't quite understand, it would add a little mysticism. this movie had potential for loads of mysticism, but failed to build any up. huge waste.
Excellent, excellent point Fitz.
I understand and agree with the sentiments behind what you're saying, but I think you're being too hard on the filmmakers. With the heavy action sequences, Bay and friends were hard-pressed to keep TRANSFORMERS on a kid-friendly focus. The studio was a bit jittery about the film being not kid friendly enough, so I give 'em a pass on dumbing down the robot speak, domo arigato (sp?) Mr. Roboto.
You DO realize that this film is based on an action figure line for kids, right? Not to mention the cartoon series and comics, too. Sure, most of the fans are grown up now, but you can't disregard that.
Plus, the whole "Autobots, roll-out!" thing is actually something Optimus has said before... Why would they have any of them talk drastically different than they originally did in the TV series? That makes absolutely no sense.
It's like with those stupid critics who bash X-Men and the like for being too "Comic-booky".
Well that makes a lot of sense. Heaven forbid X-Men have comic book-esque aspects. Because clearly it doesn't have those roots.
As for my complaints, the whole Sector 7 thing was stupid. It made little sense, was boring for the most part, and overall could've been done better. I just thought it was stupid.
my point is that it would have been a better movie if it wasn't dumbed down. any argument there? screw the target audience. hiding a movie's flaws behind the "target audience" excuse is lame, imo.
Originally posted by Fitz: my point is that it would have been a better movie if it wasn't dumbed down. any argument there?
Have you seen the cartoon? It wasn't all that intelligent to begin with. The fact that these huge robots could transform into an object you could stick in your pocket screams ERROR! Don't even get me started on WHY they created the Dino-bots! Besides, it's as I pointed out earlier, it's a Michael Bay Summer Blockbuster. Did you really expect more from him? What's with all the complaining? It'd be like if I started getting annoyed because Danielle Steele won't write anything besides romance novels. That's her niche & this is his.
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screw the target audience.
I think Bay already did this when he changed Bumblebee into a Camaro, gave Optimus Prime a mouth, turned Megatron into a jet, & changed the overall look of the robots because HE didn't like the "blocky look" of the original characters.
For the first time, I'll be "pulling an Ishmael" & watching a bootleg of a movie BEFORE I've seen it in theaters with "Transformers". As with any Michael Bay movie I'm not expecting anything to challenge my mind, just giant robots wailing on each other! If that's what happens, I doubt I'll be too upset about much. You can't walk into this kinda movie with high expectations of "art" & "creativity". It ain't gonna be there. You just gotta turn off your brain & watch the action.
"I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!"
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Posted by the monkey boyo You can't walk into this kinda movie with high expectations of "art" & "creativity". It ain't gonna be there. You just gotta turn off your brain & watch the action.
But Jaws, Raiders, Empire....they combined brains and action....why does this generation just get dumb blockbusters???
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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin: But Jaws, Raiders, Empire....they combined brains and action....why does this generation just get dumb blockbusters???
I never said that there CAN'T be a good, intelligent, action movie, but I noticed that none of those movies are Michael Bay films. Those (Michael Bay films) are the kinda movies I'm talking about.
"I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!"
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And now Bay is talking bout remaking The Birds.!!!
What; we gonna have 10 ft high robot birds from the planet Archaetropia???!!!
Fighting them off...Michelle Rodriguez, a jaded biologist who can't relate to people, but has a beautiful falcon who is murdered by the evil bird robots. See her strap on an AK-47 from her university storeroom, and head out with her possibly lesbian assistant to help stranded campers in Yellowstone Park. Cue climax with geysers and a shiny exo-skeleton only sparrow.....
Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta.
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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin: But Jaws, Raiders, Empire....they combined brains and action....why does this generation just get dumb blockbusters???
I never said that there CAN'T be a good, intelligent, action movie, but I noticed that none of those movies are Michael Bay films. Those (Michael Bay films) are the kinda movies I'm talking about.
would it not be better if Bay did make intelligent action movies? why couldn't transformers be that?
before you tell me the reason is because the cartoons were stupid, let me remind you how stupid the old spiderman cartoons were, yet how fully formed Spider-Man 2 was. that is the potential of silly-cartoon-inspired action movies!
geez monkey, you and i don't seem to agree. i remember having this same argument with you over 300. which was stupid by the way.
Originally posted by Fitz: geez monkey, you and i don't seem to agree. i remember having this same argument with you over 300. which was stupid by the way.
STUPID?! WHY YOU LITTLE...!This isn't the same arguement at all ! First, I haven't seen it...yet. Second, I'm not really saying that Michael Bay can make stupid movies because the original material is stupid. I'm saying this is Michael Bay, did you expect any better? He isn't known for intelligent art films, now is he? The reason "Transformers" is the way it is, is because Michael Bay wanted it to be his own. The reason I brung up how dated the 'toon was is because you had a problem with the dialogue which, as someone pointed out, is right out of the show.
I completely disagree with the choices he's made, but being an action junkie, I'm gonna see it & more-than-likely enjoy it at the most basic of level. (Explosions are pretty! ) I did watch the first 10 minutes on a bootleg DVD & I liked what I saw. The only reason I didn't watch more is because whoever recorded it, didn't center the camera so the left side of the screen is cut off & I couldn't see who was talking most of the time! I'll go see it next Friday. We probably will disagree, though. Mostly because I enjoy action movies just for the action. Sometimes it's fun to just watch a battle on the big screen, no plot needed !
By the way, the "Spider-Man" movies are based off of the comics, not the old 'toons! The newer cartoons are much closer to the comic adaption.
"I can't live the buttoned down life like all of you! I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles! Sure, I might offend a few of the blue-noses with my cocky stride and musky odor - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called 'City Fathers' who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about what's to be done with this Monkey_Boy?!"
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Posted by the monkey boyo You can't walk into this kinda movie with high expectations of "art" & "creativity". It ain't gonna be there. You just gotta turn off your brain & watch the action.
But Jaws, Raiders, Empire....they combined brains and action....why does this generation just get dumb blockbusters???
!!! I knew this movie would rock! Or is that comment meant to be insulting? 
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