Hey guys, there has to be a review added for Uncharted 2.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-394102.aspx

They gave it a 21/20 as most of you guys know. Make it a 100 or 105, but it's still official and has to be added. And the magazine was counted in the Infamous reviews, so it should still be counted in the Uncharted Review

http://www.metacritic.com/game...atforms/ps3/infamous

(go down to PSM3)

Thanks and I appreciate it.

Seconded

Yeah I see no reason why that review shouldn't be included. The game busted the scale, but it shouldn't discredit the review.

Mebbe the games editor's already got too many reviews to handle or something and Uncharted 2 will just have to wait. Do they only have one games editor by the way?

Yes that review should be included but at the Maximum 100.

Unlike a review from Gamer.No that game Uncharted 2 a 7/10 without even playing the multi player

Although they also gave Killzone 2 6/10

Fact is if youre reviews are inconsistent and incomplete then they should not be included in aggregate review sites.

Also considering they Gave Halo3 ODST a 8/10 I think they might be 360 biased but who knows?

Here is another review that should be included (sorry for the double post, but I first posted in reply to a topic that will probably be ignored by Metacritic moderators!):

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec...deo-game-review.html

The Telegraph is a very respected news publication in the UK, and it gives the game (another) 10/10...

"Among Thieves is not a reinvention of the genre, more a definition. A sumptuous adventure that enthrals from start to finish, a cast that you’ll fall in love with and a tale that’s better scripted, directed and paced than most Hollywood blockbusters. It is a testament to the extraordinary talent at Naughty Dog and a glorious celebration of what video games can be when they play to their enviable strengths."

Guys, come on. Marc only has time to add bad reviews to PS3 games.

It's going to be funny to see how long it takes for Marc to put up the Teletext review; he will probably wait for the Edge review to come out (which we know will be a 7 or 8) that way he doesn't have to change the overall score.

Let's remember past transgressions like the 1UP A+, the 1UP resistance 2 review of B+ where Marc's conversion was wrong, MGS4 getting 3 8's from Jolt and Games.TM and Play, but then Killzone 2 only got 1 score from all 3 because they were owned by the same company. Also low scores for PS3 mulitplats and high scores for 360 multiplats done by the same reviewer (or just left out), including Variety as a source, and Edge consistently giving 360 games higher scores than PS3 games, including never giving a PS3 game higher than an 8 with the exception of LBP, and let's not forget about Dead Space getting an 89 because Marc included a freelance games writers (teletext?) score that was way outside the range and brought it below 90.

Yes the internet is very familiar with how Marc does things here, and even though he will tell you he doesn't even own a next gen console, there are many shady things behind the scenes, such as Metacritic being owned by CBS/Viacom, who does multi-million dollar deals with MS for Xbox Live and other content, and CBS's disclosure policy protects MetaCritic from having to reveal who is paying for what (reviews and ads) and why (higher scores for partners, lower scores for competitors).

I'm sure Marc will eventually add those 2 reviews linked above, but only after he finds 2 more lower scores to keep the score at 97...because if Uncharted 2 goes up to 98, his parent company, Microsoft, and affiliates, including the European hate circle of his buddies at Edge, will be raging at him for weeks to come.

I'm sure Marc is still working on that whole "self-honesty" thing...

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Originally posted by Gamer20:
Guys, come on. Marc only has time to add bad reviews to PS3 games.

It's going to be funny to see how long it takes for Marc to put up the Teletext review; he will probably wait for the Edge review to come out (which we know will be a 7 or 8) that way he doesn't have to change the overall score.

Let's remember past transgressions like the 1UP A+, the 1UP resistance 2 review of B+ where Marc's conversion was wrong, MGS4 getting 3 8's from Jolt and Games.TM and Play, but then Killzone 2 only got 1 score from all 3 because they were owned by the same company. Also low scores for PS3 mulitplats and high scores for 360 multiplats done by the same reviewer (or just left out), including Variety as a source, and Edge consistently giving 360 games higher scores than PS3 games, including never giving a PS3 game higher than an 8 with the exception of LBP, and let's not forget about Dead Space getting an 89 because Marc included a freelance games writers (teletext?) score that was way outside the range and brought it below 90.

Yes the internet is very familiar with how Marc does things here, and even though he will tell you he doesn't even own a next gen console, there are many shady things behind the scenes, such as Metacritic being owned by CBS/Viacom, who does multi-million dollar deals with MS for Xbox Live and other content, and CBS's disclosure policy protects MetaCritic from having to reveal who is paying for what (reviews and ads) and why (higher scores for partners, lower scores for competitors).

I'm sure Marc will eventually add those 2 reviews linked above, but only after he finds 2 more lower scores to keep the score at 97...because if Uncharted 2 goes up to 98, his parent company, Microsoft, and affiliates, including the European hate circle of his buddies at Edge, will be raging at him for weeks to come.

I'm sure Marc is still working on that whole "self-honesty" thing...

......WAT

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Originally posted by Draperc:

......WAT

If you don't know what I am talking about, that means you haven't been around long enough. Read thru some old posts (if they still exist) and look for my name, there you can start learning about how this type of stuff has been going on for several years here at MC...

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Originally posted by Gamer20:

If you don't know what I am talking about, that means you haven't been around long enough. Read thru some old posts (if they still exist) and look for my name, there you can start learning about how this type of stuff has been going on for several years here at MC...

I know what you're talking about I just have a hard time believing that someone who's in charge with managing the review scores on metacritic actually takes part in this whole "console war" crap by purposely not adding reviews for a game that's exclusive to a system they may not be too fond of. The fact that PSM3 broke their own rating scale might be why it's not added. Think about it, how many other review magazines or sites have actually broken their own ratings system before? I find it kinda unprofessional that a review magazine/site would break their own ratings scale. Regardless I still can't wait for Uncharted 2, loved the first one.

Well I'm new here so I'm not aware of Metacritic's alleged shady underbelly, however I am encouraged to see that my Telegraph suggestion has now been added.

It's not changed the score from 97 though, it will be interesting to see what Edge give it and how much Edge's review influences the overall score though, having read the previous post.

To be honest I doubt it will ever get to 98, when you look at GTAIV's review page there are a huge number of 100 scores because it's a multiplatform game so attracts both Xbox and PlayStation review sites/mags.

I have heard of Edge's crazy and inconsistent reviews in the past though, especially around Killzone 2 which I seem to remember got a 7 and critism about the swearing and being a stereotypical marine grunt caught up in a war he didn't start, but on the next page of the same issue they gave House of the Dead Overkill, which is full of gratuitous swearing, a higher score and praise for using swear words. They also gave Halo 3 10 and Gears 2 9, despite also featuring stereotypical marine grunts. I've also heard of incidents involving them airbrushing 360 screenshots to make them look better! So it seems like a 9/10 from Edge would be like 11/10 from any other review, and a 10/10 would be a minor miracle! When is their review due to be published?

Edge will wait until all other major review scores are out, with the exception of Variety, to publish their review. The reason being is so they can get all the attention when they give Uncharted2 a 7 and Variety gives it an 8; that way they can sit back and what the Metacritic score come down and relish in their work.

Marc, along with Edge and friends (Variety), will say their reviews aren't out yet because of the magazines publication cycle, however this is BS because both of these sources have online components, and nothing has stopped them before from giving PS3 exclusives bad scores.

If Edge had released their review already, everyone on the internet would laugh because their bias would clearly be showing amongst all the 100's Uncharted 2 is getting.

We've seen this before with other PS3 exclusives, such as LBP getting an 8 from Variety well after all other reviews had been out (go read that Variety review, it is seething with bias), MGS4 from Edge and Variety with the 2 lowest scores, and earlier this year, Killzone 2.

I have a strong feeling that Uncharted 2 will be no different, except this time, Eurogamer is clearly getting the message from gamers that bias isn't well tolerated, where in the past Eurogamer, Edge, Variety, and other sites would gang up on PS3 games and give a volley of low scores.

Uncharted 1's review score of 89 is a great example of how certain sites were added to the Metacritic score to make sure the game stayed below 90, because at that time, the hate for anything PS3 was so great, and Microsoft's grasp on the gaming journalist industry so strong, that nobody was willing to accept the PS3 with a 1st or 3rd person shooter above 90.

The first PS3 exclusive shooter to be above 90 was Killzone 2, and it almost didn't make it, with certain sites once again getting added to bring the Metacritic down. For this entire generation, 360 games have been getting passes in reviews, and finally things are starting to equal out. However PS3 gamers need to stay vigilant and take people to task when we see things that aren't right, because the minute we let our guard down, these sites and "journalists" will be right back at their old ways of making the PS3 look bad while holding up the 360.

It's funny watching replays of X-Play on G4TV and listening to the bias back in 2007 with Adam Sessler dogging Warhawk for not having the best graphics, yet now giving ODST constant praise for its outdated graphics and 5 hour campaign. Looking back in time throughout this generation is like looking back on slavery and racism; it was there all along, and now it's very clear how screwed up things were back then.

When we look back on this generation in a couple of years, the thing people will remember most is the rampant bias in the gaming journalism community, from review sites, to magazines, to TV shows, and our very own games editor, Mr. Marc Doyle.

G4's Adam Sessler, a very notable critic also made a review, which has no reason to be left out. Metacritic has been using G4 and X-Play's scores for quite a number of games now. I don't understand why it's not there yet, because the review has been made since September 29. Please add this review or have an explanation.

G4 - 5/5
"While an astonishing achievement in technology, storytelling and gameplay, what is the true triumph of Uncharted 2 is how the game exceeds the sum of these parts. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves was the best single-player game I have ever played."

http://g4tv.com/games/ps3/5702...mong-Thieves/review/

It will get added, but only after Marc finds another review that offsets it, so he doesn't have to change the score.

Marc only likes adjusting the score down for ps3 games, not up.