I think this one deserves an actual thread. Metal Gear Solid as a series is my favorite set of games ever made. Hideo Kojima's combination of oddball humor, perturbed characters, and insane boss battles has always won praise from the likes of me and many others. So, here we are 20 years later. After beating Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots last night, I can easily say that this game is the best on the PS3 and one of the greatest I have ever played. The story does a fine job of concluding the adventures of Snake and friends. The graphics are the best any console has to offer and the gameplay is similar to prior entries but welcome nonetheless. Wow... What do you all think of this marvel of a game?

I agree completely with what you said. This is one of the greatest masterpieces in years, regardless of book/cd/movie/game. It's that good. But there's one game who's brilliance struck out at me more.....gta4 iis still the top dog right now. But that's the only game pretty much that I would say is over it in the past few years. I'm a big fan of both franchises.

I've never played the MGS games. Just got the PS3. Loved GTA4. Currently enjoying SoulCaliber.

Is there any point in playing MGS4 if you haven't played the previous games. The reviews make it sound like it's a satisfying end to the series, where you find out all the secrets. But if you're coming in blind, there's no satisfaction from that.

Parenthetically, I had the same problem with Halo 3. I'd never played it, so I had no nostalgia for the characters or circumstances. As such, I found the story mode kind of dull and soul-less.

MGS4 is my favorite game- and as such, it really bugs me when people make an immature, stupid analysis of it- "There's not even jumping!" "Too many cutscenes!" "Too easy!" Seriously, there's no need for jumping, you can skip the cutscenes (but the cutscenes are practically a work of art themselves), and if it's too easy, go on a harder difficulty! It bugs me that people make such stupid complaints about the game and fail to admit all the great points about it. Does anyone else hear that type of thing a lot?