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Originally posted by ericg75:
Would you respect the guy more if he just sat in his mansion all day counting his millions?

The millions he made from exploiting tragedy? Too little too late.

Bill Gates has given 58% of his wealth to charity, by the way.

Filmore:

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No, Bono exploits the plight of Africa and the emotional responce to it in order to create sales. He doesn't give a rat's ass about anything but money. F*ck him.

This is not very funny, Filmore.
By the way, have you talked to him lately?
You seem to know him very well.

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Originally posted by plato:

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Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes:
No, Bono exploits the plight of Africa and the emotional responce to it in order to create sales. He doesn't give a rat's ass about anything but money. F*ck him.

This is not very funny, Filmore.

Um...that's probably because it's not a joke. It's the truth. Truth is stranger than fiction but not often funnier.

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Originally posted by plato:
He also dares to address the real problems of Africa: the corruption, the heavy taxation of goods transported from that continent, and the arms sales to corrupt regimes.

But only when he has an album coming out. Read the Ed The Sock article.

This one is much better. You’re a funny guy after all.
Of course, this is not the truth, only your humble opinion.
Anyway here is mine:
I think Bono is the genuine article.
Someone who truly believes that someone can make a better world and takes advantage of his fame to make it so.
And he is successful at it too.
Because of people like him, lots of schools are built, lots of people are vaccinated, lots of people get shelter and so on.

He also dares to address the real problems of Africa: the corruption, the heavy taxation of goods transported from that continent, and the arms sales to corrupt regimes.
He even talks to people like George W, to achieve his goals and gets lots of criticism for doing so and not being cool.
In other words: he doesn't care about his image when helping others.

In the eighties, before U2 was widely known in the US, Bono and his wife worked, I mean really worked, for some time in refugee camps in Africa, far from the reporters and camera’s of networks.

But I guess you already have done that too.
How could you say these things otherwise?

oops, something went wrong when I tried to edit my message.
Anyway, filmore, my point is that he did it also when they were nowhere near as famous and when they did not have a new album out.
Maybe it's irritating to some that he uses his fame to achieve an end.

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Originally posted by plato:
Maybe it's irritating to some that he uses his fame to achieve an end.

He uses his fame to achieve the end of selling records. Yes, we've established that.

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Originally posted by plato:
Anyway, filmore, my point is that he did it also when they were nowhere near as famous and when they did not have a new album out.

Do you have an example?

This part is hilarious:

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1985
May 1 - Wide Awake in America is released
July 13 - U2 plays Live Aid
September - Bono and wife Ali work in the Ethiopia province of Wello for a full month. Work is a relative term as Bono and Wife wrote one act plays and songs to help educate people. Photographs from the trip to Ethiopia are later marketed as a book entitled "String of Pearls." All proceeds were supposedly to go to relief work in Africa (more songwriting perhaps), but only 2,500 copies were made, leaving open the question how much revenue could have been generated after accounting for production costs and actual profit.

Basically, if you can come up with anything that matches Bill Gates' 58% of his wealth to charity, I'll agree with you.

Filmore, you've mentioned the Bill Gates thing twice now, and I'm not sure what that has to do with Bono. No one's debating the fact that Bill Gates is a charitable guy. In fact, he's the most charitable person in history (also the richest, mind you).

Are you saying that because Bono hasn't given away 58% of his wealth, he's some kind of scam artist when it comes to charity work? If so, that's ridiculous logic, as no one can match what Gates has done. By those standards, anybody doing charity work is a poseur.

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Filmore, you've mentioned the Bill Gates thing twice now, and I'm not sure what that has to do with Bono.

They were on the cover of Time's Man Of The Year issue together.

I know for a fact that Gates is a poseur. I heard his Basement Tapes, and they stunk musically and actually confessed how he stole everything from Apple. Lookie, Lookie, Old News!

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Originally posted by Filmore Mescalito Holmes:

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Originally posted by ericg75:
Filmore, you've mentioned the Bill Gates thing twice now, and I'm not sure what that has to do with Bono.

They were on the cover of Time's Man Of The Year issue together.

Yeah, I know the connection there, but how exactly does it pertain to your argument that Bono's a scam artist trying to capitalize on global suffering?

You seemed to try to be making the point that since Bono's charity work isn't on the same scale as Gates, he's not doing anything meaningful. If that is indeed the argument you're trying to make, it's BS.

Filmore, how do you know that bono doesn't give away 58% of his wealth?
Maybe he doesn't publicize it.
Also, the work he has done generated a lot more money for Africa than the amount Gates gave.
Finally, he has to talk to George W. about it, how's that for sacrifice?

Like it's so hard to stand in front of a pile of garbage with starving people and look sad for five minutes. Yeah, I don't know how Bono manages to do that every time he has an album coming out, and only when he has an album coming out. What a great guy.

Anyway, the songs Bill Gates writes are nowhere near as good as the songs Bono has written.

Yo, Filmore, what have you done for world poverty, hunger, and oppression lately?

I find it ironic that your tag is about an individual opinion but you base your anti-Bono tirade on the "framed" arguement of one edthesock ad naseum.

Uhh, i like U2 regardless of ed the socks "truth" and have liked them since I first heard War back in the 7th grade... I guess that means I'm a hypocrite.

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Originally posted by juanboy:
Uhh, i like U2 regardless of ed the socks "truth" and have liked them since I first heard War back in the 7th grade... I guess that means I'm a hypocrite.

Nope, just shallow. Plus, you don't know what irony is.

Personally, I think Bono really wants to help.
The fact is that all of those fund raising, child caring(or whatever you like) are a little irritating because he has a big commercial popularity with his band, and he gets big money from it. It's a conflict position...
One serves the other and so on.

One thing remains(believe it or not): he wants to help.

"I see an America that has rehabilitated in a way that was unimaginable to me 10 years ago. Back then the US was the neighborhood bully, inept in the foreign policy, beating up on the wrong guy everywhere. With the Joshua Tree, we were writing about Central America and the dark side of the US. Now, America looks smart and dare I say it, sexy again"
- Bono, in the year 2002

He doesn't know what's going on and doesn't care.

Great quote from Bono, Filmore. I just don't pay any attention to what Bono (or any other rock star activist for that matter) does to pursue debt reduction in Africa, or AIDS, or whatever. I applaud his gusto in taking up such huge matters, but I couldn't care less either way. I just want good albums from U2. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Originally posted by Crowdiggs:
"Good night, and good luck." -E.R.M.

Great quote and movie.