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When is the next great rock band going to emerge?? Somebody told me recently that The Darkness harkens back to solid old-school metal & rock. My ass. They are pathetic. They obviously don't compare to any legitimate metal (Slayer, Metallica, Black Sabbath) or even any of the "cheesier" artits (Judas Priest, Iron Maiden). They just suck. When are we going to get the next AC/DC? or Guns 'N Roses?? I'm sick of the boy bands, the gangsta rap, etc. I'm all for alternative music, and I actually love that, but I need a little blow-the-doors off rock to really get me going.
 
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When are we going to get the next AC/DC? or Guns 'N Roses?

Actually, the old Guns 'N Roses is coming back. Except they're called Velvet Revolver. And they're fronted by Scott Weiland. But otherwise, it's them.
 
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You're clearly forgetting Tenacious D. Smiler
 
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Scott Weiland? Ouch
 
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Oh don't worry ... Axl Rose is coming out with his amazing new album any day now ...
 
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I highly recommend that everyone here interested in this topic read an article in the latest issue of Newsweek. It argues that over the last five to ten years, the reason why there has not been a "great" rock band to emerge is because of a shift to more understated, alternative rock. It argues that there has been a reluctance by artists such as the Eels, the Flaming Lips, and Modest Mouse to step up to the plate and "dominate" the rock industry. I'm probably doing a terrible job at summarizing the article, so I suggest that everyone pick up a Newsweek and check it out.
 
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I highly recommend that everyone here interested in this topic read an article in the latest issue of Newsweek.


Link to above-mentioned article

Me, I'm waiting on L.A.'s Tsar to come out with a new long-player, hopefully chock full o' arena guitar riffs. Their last one, while good, was a bit on the glam side.

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Also, I fail to see how the current garage rock scene of Detroit or the new-new wave of New York is all that different from the heavy metal/glam rock thing of LA in the 80s/90s. It's the same thing, different hair and clothes, and different music.

Heavy metal is just not "cool" right now. Perhaps it will be again. After all, we seem to be experiencing 1983 all over again with a lot of what's going on, so really how long can it be until we get back up to 1988?
 
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Regarding Velvet Revolver: No great white hope of Rock, that's for sure. I work for the parent corp of RCA, and the tracks I've heard are no great shakes. Actually, it sounds alot like 'Dirt'-era Alice in Chains. Boring boring boring.
 
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Well how about some recommendations? For some really good rock how about:

MC5
The Bell Rays
Comet Gain
The Gossip
Nation of Ulysses/The Make-Up
Royal Trux
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Fiery Furnaces
Singapore Sling

All good, kick-ass rock music. Smiler
 
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Well how about some recommendations?


If old school is allowed...

The Dictators from NYC, of course.

Ross the Boss and Top Ten were my all-time guitar idols.


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KT: No doubt, there are pockets of solid music out there (and yes, I love the Yeah Yeah Yeah's EP), it just takes much more exploring. I would also question whether metal was actually ever "cool". I guess I just miss the days when rock was the mainstream, with GOOD rap (Public Enemy, Run DMC, Whodini) and alternative music filling out the landscape. The mainstream today (spears, timberlake, eminem, usher, etc. etc.) just doesn't float my boat.

Thanks for the link to that article, flem.
 
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The Darkness make me angry. I went out with a girl who played them non-stop and even dragged me to a concert. I wanted to shoot her.

Anyway, there is good rock around. Its just few and far between. Though Im not too sure if there will be another HUGE rock band that defines a generation like Metallica or Nirvana did, but we will see I guess.
 
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I think a band that that to me would fit that bill is Radiohead .

Although give it another year or two and it might actually be Outkast ....

Also, Beau, although it may seem like you have to do more exploring to find the "good" music ... I think it's actually easier now to find music you really like (as opposed to being force fed) than it ever has been before. You can easily access both songs and information about music of all genres on the internet, as well has having a wide array of music magazines to choose from.

When I was in high school it was virtually impossible for me to discover music I liked. The local radio stations played: classic rock, country and love songs. We had no contemporary music, not even a top 40 station. There was college radio that had a sporadic schedule. The only thing I could count on to listen to there was New Wave Mania on Friday nights, Breakfast with the Beatles on Sunday, and Dr. Demento. There was no such thing as the internet yet (or at least, it was busy being invented at the time). I was pretty much stuck in the 80s until one station gave this college kid a "modern rock" radio station on Sunday nights when they had empty space in the schedule. And basically those two hours a night were my only source of music. Which I am grateful for because he was playing some really cool stuff and my music taste is probably the better for it.

But if that hadn't happened, my CD shelf might be full of new wave compilations and beatles records. Or, as my brothers is, Creedence Clearwater and Led Zeppelin and the Grateful Dead.

I'm just happy that the music IS there and that I'm able to find it. And if you have to look harder for it, isn't it that much cooler when you find it? And I prefer going to see bands in a crowd of hundreds rather than thousands anyway.
 
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Beau, Have you heard Queens of the Stone Age?

Heavily influenced by Sabbath and the Stooges, but more ummmmmm, I guess "modern" would be a good description.


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Beau, Have you heard Queens of the Stone Age?


Yeah, GoingToHell, I definitely know Queen of the Stone Age. They were originally recommended to me as being reminicent of Black Sabbath, but as a HUGE Sabbath fan, they didn't quite stack up, but they're not bad. thanks...
 
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I think a band that that to me would fit that bill is Radiohead .

Although give it another year or two and it might actually be Outkast ....

Also, Beau, although it may seem like you have to do more exploring to find the "good" music ... I think it's actually easier now to find music you really like (as opposed to being force fed) than it ever has been before. You can easily access both songs and information about music of all genres on the internet, as well has having a wide array of music magazines to choose from.

When I was in high school it was virtually impossible for me to discover music I liked. The local radio stations played: classic rock, country and love songs. We had no contemporary music, not even a top 40 station. There was college radio that had a sporadic schedule. The only thing I could count on to listen to there was New Wave Mania on Friday nights, Breakfast with the Beatles on Sunday, and Dr. Demento. There was no such thing as the internet yet (or at least, it was busy being invented at the time). I was pretty much stuck in the 80s until one station gave this college kid a "modern rock" radio station on Sunday nights when they had empty space in the schedule. And basically those two hours a night were my only source of music. Which I am grateful for because he was playing some really cool stuff and my music taste is probably the better for it.

But if that hadn't happened, my CD shelf might be full of new wave compilations and beatles records. Or, as my brothers is, Creedence Clearwater and Led Zeppelin and the Grateful Dead.

I'm just happy that the music IS there and that I'm able to find it. And if you have to look harder for it, isn't it that much cooler when you find it? And I prefer going to see bands in a crowd of hundreds rather than thousands anyway.



That was the great thing about Napster. I got it and my music taste bloomed so much. I just used to listen to death metal before that, but the internet really opened my mind and has encouraged my to buy a whole range of CDs.
 
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When is the next great rock band going to emerge?? Somebody told me recently that The Darkness harkens back to solid old-school metal & rock. My ass. They are pathetic. They obviously don't compare to any legitimate metal (Slayer, Metallica, Black Sabbath) or even any of the "cheesier" artits (Judas Priest, Iron Maiden). They just suck. When are we going to get the next AC/DC? or Guns 'N Roses?? I'm sick of the boy bands, the gangsta rap, etc. I'm all for alternative music, and I actually love that, but I need a little blow-the-doors off rock to really get me going.


In terms of metal, there's Isis's Oceanic of two years back. Other than that, not particularly much, unless you're into prog-noodling a la Dream Theater... Straight-ahead, punching riff-rock hasn't been particularly popular recently.

How about The Hold Steady?


Best wishes,
~V
 
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Beau:

Check out Corrosion of Conformity's LP "Blind." Huge hard rock riffs, a real bone-crunching opus. For fans of Sabbath or any other mid-tempo chugging sludgy rock.
 
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i'm not a big fan of heavy rock music, but if the darkness are the biggest thing from that genre then it's not a good sign. The Darkness are rubbish.
 
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