This forum is meant to be a way to quickly find new music on the web (either in streaming or downloadable form). It is meant for legal sources only (as I'm sure you already know where to go for illegal sources). For example, if you know that [Insert Band Here] just posted a full streaming preview of their upcoming album on their official website, you could post a link to it here and let the rest of us know.

Please start a new thread for each band.

Bump.

Bleh. If that's the case this entire subsection of the forum pretty much dies.

I can do that. That was the first post of this entire forum.

Mark, I'm curious. I'm with you for dumping the goldmine thread that links directly to radidshare files or whatever. However, what if you were to post a link to a blog that has a link to an illegal download. For example, if I said you can find the new Fleet Foxes album here. I personally don't see how that could be seen as wrong. Your thoughts...

There's a bit of a grey area. I could say go here and type in "Fleet Foxes Torrent", too.

Lots of blogs and web sites offer up streams and mp3s that may or may not be legal, but I think you violate the forum policies by direct linking to clearly illegal files. We're not trying to be hard asses, and none of us are interested in trying to determine the legality of every link posted in the forums. I'd say use your best judgment. If something seems illegal, it probably is.

I have to admit and tell you something. This doesn't really reflect on you guys, but the longer I haunt this joint, the less I care about new music. Reading about everybody's newest, greatest, wowest album (and it sometimes changes daily) turns me so far off new music, it makes me go out to the garage, grab certain vinyl, and listen to real obscure music.

Sorry. I know I'm full of it and you guys have nothing to apologize for, but still, I thought you might appreciate some honesty...

You know what you should do then? Instead of listening to us to find music, go off on your own and see what interests you from the now!

You're sounding like prepubescent children who think no good music has been made since Led Zeppe split.

My garage has very few albums that old, but you didn't even know who Matthew Sweet is for God's Sake. HA!

Now, you go learn about some older good music before you give me another mini, modern lecture.... Ha!

I agree with mark that hearing people go 'ga ga' and in some cases, 'Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga' over a new album, every other day, is very tiring. I mean, I know that there is tons of new stuff to explore and find but do you really need to hear so many albums? Are you really enjoying the album? Seeing a top 50 list in March is ridiculous, there is no other way to say it.

After hearing everyone argue about Fleet Foxes and how amazing they will be, when in three months, their album is released or about how I cant wait to get the leak for the new My Morning Jacket because waiting until June 10 is too long (wait, people actually know release dates? Wow!) I, too, reach for Sketches of Spain on vinyl and enjoy that because gosh, all of what I just wrote is horrible.

Heck, the new Destroyer album (one of the highly anticipated albums of the year) came out last week and I've only seen Eric and then I mention it, what's up with that?

And I'm still relatively young, too.

I'm a fan of all Destroyer's previous albums but this one has done nothing for me. Why should I talk about it if I don't care? And I rarely post about bands in the "Best of 2008" thread because they're rarely picked up... but I have recently gone ga ga over two (imo) excellent albums.. that I have listened to at least 10 times each since grabbing them. I waited a long time to let {{{Sunset}}} sink in just to make sure I didn't splooge all over the message boards for an album I wouldn't back up a week later.

And I still don't understand what the point of waiting for a release date is if you can get it sooner. Does the date you hear it on matter? Not to me it doesn't, so if I can hear an album before its release (whether I receive it from the band/promotional ppl themselves or download it) then I'm going to hear it when I can.

That's what I mean, it came out last week and no one talked about it because everyone heard it in freaking January!

And does the date you hear it on matter? Well, kind of. Isn't that why they carefully plan release dates? Because they intend for the masses to hear it on a specific date? I've been called a cynic far too much and though I won't argue about it, there is just something great about hearing that new album on the day it was intended to be heard. I can think of tons of examples where the release date actually matters/makes a difference but I don't feel like posting them because like my fellow friend said, arguing with people about this and hoping that they can see the other side is futile. The people that download and never buy stuff don't care about my point of view as long as they feel justified.

On a similar issue, why is it cool to say "I don't buy anything from a major label!" What's the point of it? (I am not being facetious by the way)

Why don't you bring it up then? Is it really that tough FKA? You're being ridiculous... just because it has been previously discussed doesn't mean it can't be discussed again, esp. since music takes time to sink in. Maybe now you'll get people who have had their opinions changed on the album instead of just getting all the hyped bs you get when everyone first hears it.

And the reason release dates are carefully planned has nothing to do with having the masses hear it on a specific date, per se. They carefully plan when it will be released so that they can give the press plenty of time to build it up by saying "So and so announced a new album!" then "So and so revealed the track list!" then "Now we've got album art!" "oh hey, a review for so and so's album!" They don't care when you hear it as long as you hear it and they get your money.

And your statement about "The people that download and never buy stuff don't care about my point of view as long as they feel justified." is complete bullshit because I guarantee we have already discussed, and you have already admitted to knowing about, my purchasing habits.

And the point of that comment was to state that I refuse to purchase anything from a label that will be giving pennies to the artist and keepiing the rest for themself. Why should I fund millionaires who only care about turning a profit when there are actual starving musicians who need my money and need recognition much more than those artists do. It's not about being cool, it's a fact. I will not give my money to the people persecuting (edit: and no, I did not mean prosecuting, although that works here as well) people who do what I practice because I refuse to line their pockets. They can continue their ways but if they refuse to give in to change then they will not keep up. There are plenty of forward thinking bands and labels that are very willing to take their place.

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Geez, and who was the pissy one again?

That was a joke, by the way, don't get angry.

And I didn't bring it up earlier because I just got home, I read it on the other thread so I wanted to ask you about it now.

Also, I do know about your purchasing ways, the statement, "The people that download and never buy stuff" wasn't meant directly at you. I just meant that we both know there are some people with tons of music on their MP3 players but only have four CDs on their shelf.

And thanks for explaining your reasoning on the “no major label purchasing” idea, just wanted to know.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:
Also, I do know about your purchasing ways, the statement, "The people that download and never buy stuff" wasn't meant directly at you. I just meant that we both know there are some people with tons of music on their MP3 players but only have four CDs on their shelf.

Bur me and you are currently having this discussion and you said it doesn't matter because "hoping that they can see the other side is futile." I am a part of "the other side" and would love to know when these release dates actually matter? I imagine you're going to refer to albums that have been leaked with wrong track titles, songs missing, not even the band themselves, etc. but I always wait for a legit promo. The only time I can think of one this has affected me is with the latest BYOP release which was a total fluke; that was the promo sent out by ecstatic peace! prior to UMG getting involved and having tracks removed. So, I don't see any other reasoning behind release date actually applying to this age.

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Originally posted by JGlass:
And the point of that comment was to state that I refuse to purchase anything from a label that will be giving pennies to the artist and keepiing the rest for themself.

Since you don't pay for albums, the artists you listen to aren't even getting pennies.

Way to read all my posts. I don't pay for RIAA related music. I've spent $200 in the past week on CDs and shirts at shows. IN THE PAST WEEK ALONE. So don't give me that tired bullshit.

P.S. And that doesn't include the money they got for playing those shows when I'm not on the guest list.

Throughout the past few weeks there has been an overabundance in posting links to direct downloads of music. It hasn’t just been in the “Goldmine” thread but it has been too rampant in multiple threads throughout many of the forums. We haven’t said much about it but these links are illegal and we can’t condone it. This goes for posting links to sites that offer illegal links.

In the past, we've been fairly lenient about posting links to music in the forums, and there's a bit of a misconception that it's okay to post links to illegal album rips, when, in fact, it does violate the policies here at Metacritic. Because we all like being a part of this community, and we'd hate to see it go away because of legal issues, we have to restate that posting links to illegal music is not cool.

No one is questioning who is right or wrong in this manner but the forums’ policy is very clear in this respect. We're also not interested in debating the morality of music downloading. This is purely a legal concern. The "Goldmine" thread and any links to 'non-legal' downloads will now be deleted.

Links to a band’s myspace, their official site or to a label are obviously fine and we would encourage people to keep posting those. Obviously we can't expect people to be 100% sure the legality of a link their posting, but try to use common sense and your best judgment.

If you have questions about a link you want to post, you can PM any or all of the moderators and we will get back to you in a prompt manner. As always, we are your friends and we are hear to help and keep these forums running as some of the best on the Internet.

Thanks,
The moderators

Fraggle, you deleted my posts, why? Come on, man, seriously? I'm not breaking any rules.

And you didn't answer my question, how are they supposed to know to pm me, particularly if they are 'regulars' around here. Now it just seems as if you are taking preventative measures against the proposed private topic. I don't think it has to be "hush-hush" when all we are talking about is breaking the rules in private, which nobody has said they were against.

I thought I just said, on this thread, which is now featured, to PM you?

Just make your thread again, I guess, state what you want and keep up with who wants in on it because I will delete it Friday afternoon.