No... I totally condemn the blatant killing of Dr. Tiller. You reap what you sow? I mean even if I'm against his agenda, the answer is not murdering the man...
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Originally posted by IndieFolkExperimentalLover: No... I totally condemn the blatant killing of Dr. Tiller. You reap what you sow? I mean even if I'm against his agenda, the answer is not murdering the man...
Well, some see it as murder and others see it as protecting the lives of innocent human beings from a murderer.
I'd love to meet you in the street chaos. By god, I would love to meet you.
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Originally posted by IndieFolkExperimentalLover: No... I totally condemn the blatant killing of Dr. Tiller. You reap what you sow? I mean even if I'm against his agenda, the answer is not murdering the man...
Well, some see it as murder and others see it as protecting the lives of innocent human beings from a murderer.
I've always wondered why these backwoods whackjobs insisted on killing the doctor. If you believe abortion is a serious crime, isn't the mother who decided to have the abortion and paid for it really the one to blame?
I never see any moms getting offed by these nutjobs.
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Originally posted by IndieFolkExperimentalLover: No... I totally condemn the blatant killing of Dr. Tiller. You reap what you sow? I mean even if I'm against his agenda, the answer is not murdering the man...
Well, some see it as murder and others see it as protecting the lives of innocent human beings from a murderer.
I've always wondered why these backwoods whackjobs insisted on killing the doctor. If you believe abortion is a serious crime, isn't the mother who decided to have the abortion and paid for it really the one to blame?
I never see any moms getting offed by these nutjobs.
Yes, that's very true. The mother never gets any of the blame, just the doctor who performed the abortion.
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You know, I'm sort of okay with people who feel that abortion is wrong or immoral, but I think once you start killing people to carry out your "pro-life" cause, you've sort crossed the line into hypocrisy. Isn't the whole mantra of these people that "all life is sacred", that an undeveloped fetus is just as important as a doctor?
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Originally posted by EricG75: Isn't the whole mantra of these people that "all life is sacred", that an undeveloped fetus is just as important as a doctor?
More important, apparently.
Really, this is what we're looking at. If you forced these women to actually keep the children you would only be increasing the number of people incarcerated in our prisons and living in the lower class. So, abortion is actually doing our 'country' a favor.
Originally posted by EricG75: You know, I'm sort of okay with people who feel that abortion is wrong or immoral, but I think once you start killing people to carry out your "pro-life" cause, you've sort crossed the line into hypocrisy. Isn't the whole mantra of these people that "all life is sacred", that an undeveloped fetus is just as important as a doctor?
Yeah, it's not ok to take an innocent life, that's for sure, and that's what this doctor was doing. If you think about it, as a society, we don't let those who take innocent lives just walk around free. And seeing as our government wasn't willing to protect the human lives of those unable to defend themselves, others took matters into their hands.
We have a responsibility, some would say a duty, to protect the weak and defenseless, which is what these unborn babies are.
I believe the mothers are to blame as well, but if you have to point the finger at the killer, then point it at the one who does the actual killing.
Originally posted by EricG75: Isn't the whole mantra of these people that "all life is sacred", that an undeveloped fetus is just as important as a doctor?
More important, apparently.
Really, this is what we're looking at. If you forced these women to actually keep the children you would only be increasing the number of people incarcerated in our prisons and living in the lower class. So, abortion is actually doing our 'country' a favor.
Whoa... hold on. Are you saying that poor people shouldn't procreate just because their offspring would most likely be poor? That's ridiculous.
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Originally posted by chaos: I believe the mothers are to blame as well, but if you have to point the finger at the killer, then point it at the one who does the actual killing.
Because historically, we tend to blame the executioners more than the tyrant for politically charged murders.
Originally posted by EricG75: Isn't the whole mantra of these people that "all life is sacred", that an undeveloped fetus is just as important as a doctor?
More important, apparently.
Really, this is what we're looking at. If you forced these women to actually keep the children you would only be increasing the number of people incarcerated in our prisons and living in the lower class. So, abortion is actually doing our 'country' a favor.
Whoa... hold on. Are you saying that poor people shouldn't procreate just because their offspring would most likely be poor? That's ridiculous.
Nowhere in my post did I say anybody should or should not do anything I was only making a point that has already been made elsewhere. However, if I were to make such a judgment call, I would say that people should not have children if they can not monetarily and emotionally support them.
The fact still remains that abortion reduces crime rates and lowers the burden of social welfare programs to provide for even more potential families.
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And seeing as our government wasn't willing to protect the human lives of those unable to defend themselves, others took matters into their hands
This is a question for the staff at metacritic. Is it possible for this chaos character to be formally investigated by the police?
His comments on this forum are incitement to murder. There's every chance this person was involved.
Chaos's explicit approval of murder, of pleasure taken in a current homicide is not something we should take lightly.
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This is a question for the staff at metacritic. Is it possible for this chaos character to be formally investigated by the police?
His comments on this forum are incitement to murder. There's every chance this person was involved.
Chaos's explicit approval of murder, of pleasure taken in a current homicide is not something we should take lightly.
Some call it murder others call it defending the innocent. By the way, I don't necessarily condone the killing of this doctor. It's not how I would choose to do things nor would I recommend it to others. That said, I understand why this creep was killed. Every human life deserves a chance, every human life has rights, even the ones who can't speak for themselves.
I hate to break it to you, but abortions are going to happen whether legal or illegal and whether they're performed by doctors or someone else. Killing a doctor won't cut down on the number of abortions performed in the U.S.
The only effect Tiller's murder will have is to shine a giant spotlight on what wackos some of these pro-fetus (I refuse to call them pro-life anymore) people are.
If you really want to cut down on the number of abortions, why don't you get your conservative posse to start promoting sex education and birth control instead of villifying it?
It seems conservatives want it both ways. Conservatives are generally against any measure that gives young adults information about or access to contraceptives, but at the same time they don't want any abortions taking place. It seems the simplest way to prevent abortions (and probably less extreme than murder), is to prevent unintended pregnancy in the first place.
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Originally posted by EricG75: It seems the simplest way to prevent abortions (and probably less extreme than murder), is to prevent unintended pregnancy in the first place.
Abstinence, anyone?
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