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if you want to question Gibson, question why he is so obsessed with that small and gruesome section

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Good question, why is he obsessed with that particular section of the bible. If he wanted to make a movie based off of the bible, why didn't he show all of the good things that Jesus did, you could make an entire movie about that, then have it end with his death. Instead, it was more like "The Death of Christ" rather than "The Passion." I don't want to get to far in depth on this one, because I am afraid I will offend those who liked the movie, I don't hate it, I just think that it could have been better. This is going to be the last time that I say anything on "The Passion."

Does anyone really understand the question? To me an overrated film is one that received critical aclaim (7 out of 10 or better) and deserved a 2. Calling Gladiator, The Last Samurai, Sixth Sense or A Beautiful mind overrated may be true in the minds of some, but I think most would agree that they were at lease good movies. A really overrated movie was Eyes Wide Shut. It sucked and the acting sucked.

So much to comment about, so little inclanation.
Gibson proved that Jesus was the Christ in his movie. No one who was not super-human could have taken that lickin' and kept on tickin'. Only the son of God could loose that much blood and stay alive for as long as he did. I still din't quite get the point of this movie but if sheer numbers count for anything, then I believe it is over-rated. Not, however as much as that plagarist Tarantino's efforts. If this man has had one original thought, I would like to know what it is.

The lady and I both agreed that one movie had great reviews... that it didn't deserve: Monster! I don't know what it was, but I just didn't "buy it". Maybe it's my ongoing dislike of Billy Bob /shrug.

Another one that struck us both wrong: Y Tu Mama Tambien. All that we saw was the "joke", making even the drama farcical.

I would go on, but I'm probably garnishing heaps of hate on my first post. I will gladly avoid fanning the flames of the Passion/Schindler discussion.

~ JohnyQD

i would have to say one hour photo- tho it was interesting watching robin williams be serious and pull it off but he never seemed scary even when he was threatening that couple naked he seemed a little creepy but not scary , anyways the ending made no sense to me at all , i dont know it just didnt come together for me like i thought it would tho it has its moments and the critics probably liked it cause it looked artsy, i was thinking maybe the problem is for most of the movie you feel sorry for the guy , but then he loses it towards the end and maybe its hard to reconcile the two , idk

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if you want to question Gibson, question why he is so obsessed with that small and gruesome section

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Good question, why is he obsessed with that particular section of the bible. If he wanted to make a movie based off of the bible, why didn't he show all of the good things that Jesus did, you could make an entire movie about that, then have it end with his death. Instead, it was more like "The Death of Christ" rather than "The Passion." I don't want to get to far in depth on this one, because I am afraid I will offend those who liked the movie, I don't hate it, I just think that it could have been better. This is going to be the last time that I say anything on "The Passion."

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dont fall bad dude theres a ton of people and critics who agree with you

"Sideways" is highly overrated. I enjoyed it, but the praise that's getting heaped on it is astounding. It could have been an hour long sit-com episode. Maybe I just didn't "get it" but I don't get the universal circle jerk that's going on about this movie.

Look at the last few oscar winners to see overrated movies. American Beauty and exception, but Chicago? Gladiator? Titanic? Are you serious?

How about Hero? I don't know why, but I actually expected something of substance from this movie.

Yes, the art direction was spectacular, but it had little else going for it. The whole film smacked of "let's-see-how-many-CGI-effects-we-can-cram-into-one-movie" syndrome, the plot was ridiculously convoluted, with time-warps, flashbacks and (from the looks of things) LSD trips all over the place, and you can forget about characterisation (watch Nameless fight to avenge his father's death and then die; The End).

I'll take real depth and character over high-end production values any day. It's just fortunate to see the occassional movie, like Lord of the Rings, that has both.

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i would have to say one hour photo- tho it was interesting watching robin williams be serious and pull it off but he never seemed scary even when he was threatening that couple naked he seemed a little creepy but not scary...

I just have to say that some of my personal favorite films have starred Robin Williams.

In particular, Dead Poet's Society. For all of you that have seen it, was that movie not amazing. Robin Williams didn't play a crazy character. The movie wasn't even a comedy. It was a very good drama. Robin William's character was very serious and he played the part incredibly well.

Please try to learn more about certain actor's acting history before limiting them to a particular genre.

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So much to comment about, so little inclanation.
Gibson proved that Jesus was the Christ in his movie. No one who was not super-human could have taken that lickin' and kept on tickin'. Only the son of God could loose that much blood and stay alive for as long as he did. I still din't quite get the point of this movie but if sheer numbers count for anything, then I believe it is over-rated. Not, however as much as that plagarist Tarantino's efforts. If this man has had one original thought, I would like to know what it is.

Well actually, during the rule of the Romans, they crucified many, many people, and many, many people lasted longer than Jesus. Don't take this as being sacriligious, I do belive in Jeuss and all. But many people lasted through Friday afternoon (jesus is said to have died at approximately 3 o clock) forcing the Roman centurions to break their legs to accelerate their asphyixiation (i know that's spelled wrong). So if that's the qualifier to be God's Son, then he's not even topping the Divinity List.

Oh yes, and 21 Grams. Irritating, pretentious, bourgeious stream-of-consciousness-soft-porn-in-disguise.

Its status as a critics' darling was inevitable, I guess.

I'll say KillBill, maybe I just missed the point of this movie, but I thought it was poorly written, and poorly acted. In addition to being a stupid premise to get across some message that Tarantino wanted to get across.Uma Thurman was brutal at times and the dialogue was so rudimentary it was shocking. I like some of Tarantino's films and I think he has a flair for writing good, solid dialogue, but it was not present in this movie.

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I'll say KillBill, maybe I just missed the point of this movie

Yeah, you definately did.

Yeah, I don't knwo if movies really get down to the heart of what those things were raelly like. There is always some uplifting story to distract you from the actual horror of the situation that these people are in in the concertation camps. A little bit off topic, but I did like Beautiful Life with Roberto Begnini. That did a pretty good job (through the loss of the parents)to show that this was serious, but people could still live it through and proved how strong some were.

Kill Bill 1 lived up to the hype but part 2 is definitely overrated. After about 4 hours you get the biggest anticlimax I've ever seen. The fights with Lucy Liu and her gang should have been the final scene but then Quentin wouldn't have had such a catchy title.

I think the recent Land of the Dead was overrated. Most critics are praising this movie but they didn't care at all for movies like Resident Evil. It might be just me, but I found the same problems with Land of the Dead as they complained about with Resident Evil.

Oh man I totally agree with you on that Berude!!!!

NOT!

Dude, I reaaalllly got worked up when I read your post. In fact, I'm having a hard time writing. Okay, I need to breath so I can write a half-way intelligent response to your completely ridiculous posting.

Starting off, you said 4 hours to the biggest anti climax you've ever seen? Before I start bashing I need to ask... were you at ALL watching for the story? IF at the time of viewing, you were at all interested in the plot, you'd realize that the Brides meeting with Bill was actually extremely climactic. We'd been watching her brutally dismember anyone in her path, then she gets to the man with her daughter.

Not only do we see their eyes meet for the first time in over 4 years, we get even MORE to the story. Quentin obviously was sympathetic to Bill and gave him a chance to semi-redeem himself in the viewers eyes. If you like dialogue, that was the shining moment. The conversations were always on the brink of a battle (and humorously, a pretty civil fight.) There you go, even more heart pumping. Not only are we awaiting the fight with Bill, but we wonder if the Bride will get her daughter back safely. The Brides entire quest has built up to this point, we patiently wait for them to come to terms with the fight.

When they both finish talking with each other and have a peaceful conversation, Bill is killed in the most honorary way. He dies and we feel the most satisfying end in movie history.

THE MOVIE WAS BRILLIANT! I haven't even mentioned that the film on a whole was done more realistically, without depleting all of the violence. We come back onto real grounds in this movie, and we get a great end because our feet are planted in truthfulness. Could you seriously picture the end with Bill getting hacked up and blood spraying everywhere?

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Are there any films out there that you consider to be highly overrated?

"Jerry Maguire". I hate Tom Cruise and this is him at his most hateable, for me anyway. But I do like Renee Zellweger, so it wasn't a total loss.

"Good Will Hunting" Dislikeable & uninteresting characters in a painfully slow-paced film, for me anyway.

I generally hate to get too hateful, but you guys can go for it!