The Brits already named Spielberg the greatest director of all-time two years ago, so I wouldn't expect to find him on an "alternative" list.

The one I'm happy about is Cabaret because that makes my personal Top Ten, yet people often act like it's no great shakes.

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posted by digtochina
I think it's an injustice to not have any of Sergio Leone's movies on that list, "Once Upon a Time in the West" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" are both brilliant movies. Get rid of Pulp Fiction and put one of those up there.

Totally, utterly, completely and comprehensively agree.

I said earlier that all the films were outstanding. I missed Pulp Fiction...weak...

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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin:
I missed Pulp Fiction...weak...

I don't get how you can say Pulp Fiction is weak. I'd easily rank it as one of my all time favorite films. I've seen it probably a dozen times, and it's perfect. Everyone should see that film before they die.

Ishther is a Tarantino basher--if you don't know that by now. I also think that Pulp Fiction is perfect in every aspect of the word and would rank it as one of my all-time favorite films.

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Originally posted by FragileKidA:
Ishther is a Tarantino basher--if you don't know that by now. I also think that Pulp Fiction is perfect in every aspect of the word and would rank it as one of my all-time favorite films.

I couldn't agree more. Pulp Fiction is undoubtedly one of my top 3 films of all time. It's flawless. What more could you possibly want from a movie?

Yeah, as much as I like Ishmaels coffin, he is dead wrong about Tarantino. But he already knows how I feel on that subject.

I've been inspired by Richard Dawkins to write a book concerning filmic blind spots.

I'm calling it ' The Tarantino Delusion.'

Luv ya FKA....

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Originally posted by Ishmaels coffin:
I've been inspired by Richard Dawkins to write a book concerning filmic blind spots.

I've been inspired by Richard Dawson to become a game show host.

Nice one eric. Got yr fixed smile ready?

No, but I've been practicing kissing housewives.

Desperate ones?

what in god's name is 'scarface' doing on this list? and... i'd go so far as to say donnie darko is the most overrated film i've ever seen, so i'm going to have to disagree on that pick too. in retrospect, i'd rather have not seen it, unless you want to argue that one should see a terribly overrated film before one dies.

I feel like people don't think very much when they talk about Tarantino. It's pretty much the general concensus that whatever he does is "high art" just because his name is in the credits. Pulp Fiction is a weak movie if you look past that name. It's simply glorified violence, not a critique. There aren't enough consequences for me to buy that.

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Originally posted by DigToChina:
Pulp Fiction is a weak movie if you look past that name. It's simply glorified violence, not a critique. There aren't enough consequences for me to buy that.

I don't think you are understanding what he is trying to do if that's all you got from that movie. The intertwining story plots, the brilliant writing and oh, those amazing shots--it's all there. That doesn't even mention his ability to take actors and restore their credibility and even turn some of them into stars.

He has so much knowledge in his head and all of that bleeds onto the screen and into his films, scripts and the way he directs. It isn't so much that his name is behind it but that he himself is making it and because he is making it, it is damn good.

What ?! There isn't a single movie on that list that has a giant ape, a hungry great white shark, a superhero, a dinosaur, Obi-Wan Kenobi, a stoner bowler & his veteran friend, a whip-bearing archeologist, a hobbit, Neo, or even cavemen flying harrier jets! Movies to see before you die, indeed .

Monkey, you need to get a real, alternative life quickly, before you die!!!

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Originally posted by DigToChina:
Pulp Fiction is a weak movie if you look past that name. It's simply glorified violence, not a critique.

Pulp Fiction isn't itended to be a critique on violence, but I don't think it glorifies it either. I'd have to watch it again, but I think there are only a couple instances of onscreen violence.

I'm not sure what you mean about a lack of consequences in the film. In each of the three tales, something bad comes about as result of the characters actions, and the characters must redeem themselves.

I'm not really sure if I look at Tarantino in the way every1 else does, but I see his films as great comedys more than serious dramas. True, I didn't like Pulp Fiction the first time I watched it. It seemed like I was wathing NOTHING onscreen, for an entire almost 3 hours. But damn did that 2nd watch make me realize why this movie is one of the greatest of the 90's. THERE'S SO MUCH DEPTH in the movie, that 1 screening is IMPOSSIBLE to savor all the greatness he put into it. And as I said, I look at his movies with more of a comedy curve than a serious one. Pulp Fiction is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen, and if u look at it the way I do, I think u would lol every minute of it too. Yes, the script was brilliant in what he wrote, and looking at it in a serious way, would still deem this movie great. But looking at it the way I look at it, DigtoChina, I think u would have a greater appreciation of the movie as a whole. Like when Vincent goes to a bathroom, do u notice how everytime this happens, something retarted happens to him or somebody around him? I didn't catch it the first time, but damn was funny when he came out of the stalls at the end to find a woman pointing her gun at his buddy. My advice? Go watch the movie again, this time with a different view in mind. It just might end up being your favorite movie of all-time, like mine. But then again, I don't think there's a movie in this world in which EVERYONE loved it, so i would understand if u still don't like it.

Pulp Fiction, Donnie Darko, Sexy Beast...

I have to comment on the derogatory comments being handed out to these films.

Even if I DIDN'T like these films, I could understand why they were important in the evolution of cinema. The vast majority of the films in this list changed something. That's why they are present. Even Terminator 2 (of which I am not a fan) made leaps and bounds in terms of special effects and CGI.

Hey Duncan. I have to disagree with you that Sexy Beast is important in the evolution of cinema.

Enjoyable as it is, its' just another Brit crime thriller, done to death for the last 40 years. So, I'm curious as to what you've seen in it that makes it more important than say East is East, as a reflection of UK culture.

Pulp Fiction, as weak as it is, and I could write a very long and detailed critique(I'm not merely bashing Tarantino), has been quite influential, as has DD, an uneven, but charming movie, but Sexy Beast? Hmmm